What is suffering according to conventional truth and what
is suffering according to ultimate truth? From "the suffering of
birth" up to "the suffering of not obtaining what one desires"—
those are suffering according to conventional truth. "In brief, the
five aggregates of attachment are suffering"—that is suffering
according to ultimate truth.
Парамартха - это предельно возможная абстракция*, т.к. в пять упадана скандх входит больше явлений, чем в мирские виды страдания. Все тела в локах и соответствующие им миры заменены одним понятием "рупа".
Нет?
*Это не единственная характеристика
Я это место всегда читал так, что парамартха тут - это когда дхармический дискурс. К тому же, тут с самвритти в качестве альтернативы. _________________ Буддизм чистой воды
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Часть паннатти находится в списках читтавипраюкта самскар. У Дж. Конгтрула есть определение:
J_Kongtrul Treasury of knowledge пишет:
E s s e n t i a l N a t u r e
With regard to the former [it says in the root verses]:
The formative predispositions disassociated with the mind. ..
This category [of formative predispositions] is designated as “disassociated”
(viprayukta, mi Idan pa) because they do not, like mental states, partake of [the
aforementioned] circumstances where the mind engages with its object of
reference through the five concomitant characteristics {paňcasamprayuktaka,
mtshungs Idan mam pa lnga).m They are nonetheless designated as “formative
predispositions” (.samskdra, du byed) because they partake of predisposed
circumstances.111
In this regard, Upa Losal112 and others have held that these refer to circumstances
other than physical form, mind, and mental states. As for [the opinion
of] most [masters] of the past, Karma Trinlepa II113 says that
There is nothing other than physical form, mind, and mental states,
but the designations that are imputed with regard to the circumstantial
factors cannot be described as being either the same as or
other than physical form, mind, and mental states. That is to say,
they are neither established as any distinct substance apart from
the triad of physical form and so on, which are the basis of their
designation, nor [can they be considered to be] distinguishing
counterparts (vyatireka, Idogpa) of those three kinds of entity,
physical form and the like. They resemble, for example, a fist that
cannot be described as identical with or anything other than its
fingers.114
Помогли бы, конечно, истории включения дхарм в список, как, например, про правила Винайи.
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