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№47946Добавлено: Ср 13 Фев 08, 18:26 (17 лет тому назад)Кто знает про Аро?
Такие дела: переводил тут Берзина и наткнулся на такую строчку:
Цитата:
...Kaydrubjey himself, in several of his works, has refuted certain aspects of dzogchen, such as the oral guidelines of Aro, using very strong language.
Цитата:
...Кхедруб Дже в некоторых своих работах подвергал критике определенные аспекты Дзогчена, такие как устные наставления Аро, в которых используется очень грубый язык.
Стал искать, что такое Аро. Нашел, фактически, только одно упоминание в ДхармаВики:
Цитата:
The Aro lineage has antecedents in a "Mother Essence Lineage" ... is based on the Aro gTér ... discovered by the female tertön Aro Lingma (1886-1923).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aro_gT%C3%A9r
Но Кхедруб Дже (mKhas-grub rJe dGe-legs dpal-bzang) - это 1385-1438. Следовательно, Далай-лама говорит о каком-то другом (или другой) Аро.
Может, кто знает, о ком идет речь?
Интересно при этом, что сайт http://www.aroter.org не работает, и на одном англоязычном форуме я видел призыв его забанить. Но как это технически можно было сделать по всему и-нету - непонятно.
№47947Добавлено: Ср 13 Фев 08, 18:50 (17 лет тому назад)
Очень даже работает:
The Aro gTér is a stream of Vajrayana Buddhism in which ordination is congruous with romance, marriage, and family life. It focuses on the teaching and practice of the Inner Tantras from the point of view of Dzogchen, an essential non-dual teaching.
Khyungchen Aro Lingma (1886-1923)
Khyungchen Aro Lingma was born with great ease and without making any sound. The first act she performed was to make a long drawn-out hiss with her lips drawn up into wrathful aspect, as if she were performing a rTsa-rLung breathing exercise.
A great number of eagles appeared in the sky at her birth. They swooped and glided very close to her parents' retreat cave entrance. All manner of sky phenomena also appeared - including clouds shaped like yung-drungs and ga-kyils. Strong gusts of wind sprang up and subsided quickly, and the sun and moon were clearly visible in the sky at the same time. Her parents instructed her in Trül-khor (Yantra yoga) from a very early age and she had mastered gTu-mo by the age of nine. She could not endure to wear clothes for most of the year until she was an adult and left the retreat cave. This is why she had the name Réma or cotton-wearing lady, because she had the power to generate her own inner heat.
This statue lacks the mélong or wisdom mirror with appended chö-phen (reality flag) which Khyungchen Aro Lingma should be holding, and also the gZi stone at her neck. _________________ सत्यमेव जयते ||
№47952Добавлено: Ср 13 Фев 08, 19:42 (17 лет тому назад)Re: Кто знает про Аро?
Сергей Хос пишет:
Цитата:
...Kaydrubjey himself, in several of his works, has refuted certain aspects of dzogchen, such as the oral guidelines of Aro, using very strong language.
Цитата:
...Кхедруб Дже в некоторых своих работах подвергал критике определенные аспекты Дзогчена, такие как устные наставления Аро, в которых используется очень грубый язык.
Только грубый язык не в наставлениях, а в подверганиях.
№47956Добавлено: Ср 13 Фев 08, 20:02 (17 лет тому назад)
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Aro Yeshe Jungney lived somewhat after this, in the tenth century.
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In Tibetan "Aro" is an unusual name. The only Aro who is at all well known in Tibetan religious history is Aro Yeshe Jungney (a ro ye shes 'byung gnas) the teacher of rBa gom bSod rnams rGyal mtshan who was in turn the teacher of the famous Kha rag sGom chung. This A-ro was so called because, as a child, he was found by a nun laying like a corpse (ro) emitting the sound "AA". She took care of him and called him "A-ro" ("corpse [saying] 'AA'" / "corpse of AA"). This A-ro was the author of a text known as Aro's Mahayana Yoga (a ro'i theg chen naljor) and of "Aro's Great System of Guidance" (a ro'i khrid mo che don khor) which is also known as "The Esoteric Instructions of the Great Perfection according to Aro" (rdzogs chen a ro'i man ngag), "The Essential Spirituality of Aro" (a ro' thugs bcud) or "The Seven Sessions of Aro" (a ro thun bdun). It is a system of the mental class of Dzogchen (rdzogs chen sems sde) known as the tradition of Khams. Aro Yeshe Jungney held both the Chinese and Indian traditions of the Mental Class of Dzogchen during the seventh generation of their transmission. Although Atisha himself praised the oral instructions of Aro Yeshe Jungney, they were later attacked by many including Je Tsongkhapa's disciple Keydrubje.
-- http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/lofiversion/index.php/t34315.html
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