Karmapa controversy

Дальше. Я сам, являясь Шамарпой, являюсь доказательством полномочий узнавать Кармапу в соответствии с традицией линии Карма Кагью. Ок, доказательством полномочий, а не верности определения. Ну так а Тай Ситупа доказательсво полномочий Тай Ситупы. Ха?

Ну что ж, поехали:
1) Китайскому Кармапе годков намного больше, чем выдают на самом деле

     Ugyen Trinlay Dorje himself has recently adopted this view as well. Although he previously proclaimed himself the only Karmapa, possible misinterpretation could have existed in translation, for he has stated in recent meetings with Tibetan spiritual leaders and monks that he regards Thrinlay Thaye Dorje as Karmapa as well, because he was recognised by the Gyalwa Shamarpa. [...]

     [...] In addition, the Shamarpa believes the competing claims do not, in fact, pose any contradiction because the Karmapa, as a great bodhisattva or spiritual being, can emanate in many forms to benefit all sentient beings according to their needs. To underscore his willingness to be supportive, Shamar Rinpoche even provided the necessary help for Ugyen Trinlay Dorje to obtain Indian government’s approval for his recent visit to the U.S., though at the same time maintaining the stance that Thrinlay Thaye Dorje is the traditional Karmapa.
     While this may be confusing to outsiders, it could be considered this way: Ugyen
Trinlay Dorje is the new official Karmapa of the Chinese and Tibetan Governments, and
Thrinlay Thaye Dorje is the official Karmapa according to the rightful spiritual leader
Shamarpa, 16th’s Karmapa’s administration, and the 900 years old Karma Kagyu tradition.
-- http://www.karmapa-issue.org/ikkbo/20080523-ikkbo.pdf